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Converting Farads
I am considering building an electric car. It may not be possable, but I would like to use Supercapacitors instead of batteries. I need to know how to convert farads in to volts, and how to rate farads as amp hours. Can you help me?
Thanks! 
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No direct conversion from farad to volts or amp*hours. Here are the formulas.
1 farad = 1 coulomb / volt 1 coulomb = 1 amp/second 
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While true, that answer is a bit disingenuous.
I think this is how it works, but I may be wrong. X Farads = X(Coulomb/Volt) So you divide the Capacitance by the cell voltage (Not pack voltage, since the cells are in series and the same current goes through each cell) The Maxwell packs I am looing at are 2.7 volts. X/2.7 is the number of coulombs the pack can supply. Now, Amps is Coulombs per second, so you would get X/2.7/60 = X/162 Amp Hours (hours at one amp) That gets you to Farads/162 = AmpHours for this cell type. Or 162 * AmpHours = Farads This means to get a 12AH pack for my electric bike I need nearly 2000 Farads. For 32 volts with 16V500F packs I need 8 at $770 each. Looks like if my math is right, my bike will be batteries, not ultracapacitors. 
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Real comparability would require looking at the total stored energy in joules. For the capacitor, 0.5*C*VČ, for the battery V*Amp hours*3600. You need 2700 farads, rated at 32 volts. If you connect 16 V packs in series, you'll need 5400 F in each pack. I recommend batteries. Supercapacitors aren't really super. 
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The problem with using capacitors is that as they deplete the voltage also drops as apposed to batteries were the voltage stays the same till they are "dead"

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I feel the best way to solve the problum would be to use both batterys and caps. The caps can be conected so they would "release" energy at a lowr.p.m. such as starting off and then would power back up and could be used to once again give a "shot' of powewr in hill erias. The thing you should put the most concideration into is the type of battery and may i suggest lithium. Very light wait to the power, jewls, amps voltage for this type of battery is superior. But be prepaired to pay for the best batterys also. i may not be able to spell well but i know what i am talking about. just think about it and make your own disition. i just had to throw it out there for you because thats what i would do and i have experiance with electrical vehicals and bikes as well. Utilize any and all possable options. Just don't over engineere. over redundance can be the death of a project. "KISS" is the best way.
Keep It Simple Stupid KISS besides if it simple when you have a problum some time and you will with any first production you can always solve the problum with a couple of jumpers to get you home. 
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Power in a capacitor (as measured in Joules) is equal to the voltage it is charged to "squared" times its capacitance in Farads. If you have millifarads, you must multiply by 1000. if you have uF (microFarads) you must multiply by 1 million (1 000 000). Remember not to use the capacitors rated voltage. That's just the highest charge it can handle before it explodes. They sometimes explode anyways if your charge is too close to the rated voltage, so select a capacitor with an oversized rated voltage for safety (the maximum charge voltage times 2 perhaps). The power of a fully charged battery (again, measured in Joules) is the battery voltage, times the Ah rating of the battery. If you have only the mAh rating, you must multiply by 1000. Now multiply by 3600. (the number of seconds in an hour). Now you can compare. By the way, you can always put a capacitor accross the terminals of a battery in theory, but in practice you could hurt yourself. The battery has a very low internal resistance, as does the capaitor, so the amount of current is equivalent to shorting the battery terminals with a screwdriver. I don't recommend it. I am not sure what the result will be, but with this much current, "somethings gotta give". If you plan to do this, in a real engineering design, you probably know what you're doing so you would use a resistor to dampen the charge speed until the two voltages are equivalent. Also remember that the capacitor will discharge your battery much faster (two or three weeks?) than if your battery had nothing connected to it (6 months?). 
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