Anyone know a pathological liar?

[FLAlady]

I have met people who I believed but are actually liars. Any stories?

[Domino]

Well.. I don't want this thread to go there, so I'll answer it seriously.

My boss is a pathological liar. He can take anything you say and use it against you, and make you look bad. It's very irritating, but most of the people I work have learned how to deal with it.

One time, we had an item that one of my techs worked on- I had worked on it the previous year and had gotten different results. Boss told me that the customer called complaining, threatening to pull their business, were going to sue etc and that I had better make it right.

So I called the customer. To find out that they hadn't even received the item or the results back yet. That was REALLY embarrassing. I asked them to send the gage back as I had gone over the results again and thought we may have made an error. It turned out that I was right, but still...(My tech had taken the item to him with my results from the previous year to ask what to do about it. That's how he knew before the customer got it.)

[Pandsala]

ive only known 3 pathological liars, one was my godmother, who isnt too bad, but she does lie when she has no reason to, and does it a lot, just mostly its piddly stuff, like what she ate for lunch. I can generally get her to tell the truth if i just make it known im not dealing with her when she does it.

One was my mother in law (not starting a fight, just stating a fact, that MY mil was and is a pathological liar), she lied about virtually everything, literally, from what she ate for dinner, to wether or not she went to the hospital for a heart attack (she didnt even go to the hospital, according to a very bewildered FIL and SIL).

the third was a friend of my dads, he was heavy into drugs, and he lied about everything as well, he was the worst one as far as how often he did it, he was a vet like my dad, so my dad did his best to help the guy.

I dont have much tolerance for lying these days, so i tend to avoid people who lie to me, so i havent run into any more than that.

[FLAlady]

I have always wondered about compulsive and/or pathological liars and what they get out of it. I had a friend who would claim to have several successful businesses but never have any money. This went on for years. No one believed him about his work, but no one confronted him. Why do they do this?

[Domino]

There really isn't a good way except maybe therapy.

The problem is that they just don't care. Most pathological liars are also narcissists.

In my situation, we let it slide because everyone in the company knows how he is, so its more a joke now than anything.

[lovingDIL]

There really isn't a good way except maybe therapy.

The problem is that they just don't care. Most pathological liars are also narcissists.

In my situation, we let it slide because everyone in the company knows how he is, so its more a joke now than anything.

I thought most narcissists are pathological liars, not most pathological liars are narcissists? :confused:

[Domino]

Point taken.

[lovingDIL]

Tomato Tomahto

???

No, it is not the same thing.

That's like saying

All apples are bad, therefore all bad things are apples.

[Domino]

If you'll notice- I edited my post a few minutes after posting it because I realized you were right.

[Annsdil]

I know of a couple of people who are pathological liars. :(

The first person is someone I went to school with. She made up stories that could have got teachers and students into serious trouble e.g. she claimed to have had an affair wth a teacher and claimed to have been pregnant by a student, home made Doctors note and everything. The parents threatened to sue, the teacher almost got suspended.

She claimed she was a qualified paramedic at age 14 and went to the rescue of an elderly neighbour who fell in his home and cut open his forehead, and stitched him up.

She was a professional opera singer, she claimed to be a paratrooper too! All whilst still at school!

In a way, I understood her, b/c when she was younger she was involved in an accident that left her hospitalised for months and in a wheelchair for a long period of time. I remember her being off school for almost a year. During that time we would send her class made puzzle books, joke books, gifts, tape recordings of us all; anything and everything to show we were thinking of her. Then of course once she's back walking again and at school, she's just another student again. She must have desperately craved all the attention she'd got used to.

The other one;

They have told people about things that occured in their childhood, which has not made any sense and have been "clarified" by other family members.

They have told so many different stories about their son's childhood, that he can no longer rely on what he thought he knew, he now asks other family members about his childhood. Most of his life a lie :(

They have lied about having serious illnesses, other people having serious illnesses and when other people have got together they have found they have been told different versions.

Has alienated family members from each other, presumably to ensure no-one compared the stories.

Has told such stupid lies that are so obviously not true. I can't give a specific example of what has been said for risk of identification and as much as I am trying to make up a story as an example I can't think of one :D Wow! - Don't know how this person does it!

Anyway, I believe that this person has many classic Narcissistic traits, of which this happens to be one of them.

One of my most favourite quotes is:

"You may tell me your lies for that intrigues me. The thought that you think me a fool whilst doing so is what annoys me"

John K. Dighton - WKU Hall of Fame Inductee

I saw this somewhere and it felt so true to me, I had to write it down, and I've kept it for years.

[Domino]

I love that quote! Too bad my boss wouldn't understand it....

[Unregistered]

My own mom is a pathological liar (as well as a narcassist) sp?. Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie.

She gets angry when I go visit extended family (I'm in my 30's and married w/children) because they all comment on things she says, and I have to correct them.

My last trip there, everyone commented on how she is such a wonderful grandmother, always helping me out, giving me advice, blah, blah, blah. I looked at them with the deer in the headlights look, and told them I haven't spoken to or seen her in 2 months. And we usually only talk once a month and see each other once every other month.

Needless to say, they were all shocked.

[Unregistered]

I have met people who I believed but are actually liars. Any stories?

an old friend of mine was a pathological liar. well i think she was. she had said some awful things which got her parents into trouble with social services. she also said something about a male friend of mine which, if it had been taken to the police could have got him into serious trouble.

[loz]

my friend is a compulsive liar. even though its not the same thing she has said some horrible things about her family and my friends which could have lead to serious concequences.

she said that her father was abusing her e.g. beating her up. to back this up she was caught by her mother bangin her arm on the corner of her dresser to make a bruse. when she first told me i believed her i mean i thought she was a friend. ahe also said that her mum who is a childminder was an alcoholic and left her to look after lots of children.

but this wasnt the worse thing she has said.

she has also said that a good friend of mine raped her. i was horrified when i first found out and i couldnt look the boy in the eye and i ignored him or weeks. he had no idea why i was acting like this and it wasnt until i got the confidence to ask him that he found out what she had been sayin about him.

i felt so annoyed and angry with her. it made me feel physically sick that someone could say things like that its disgusting:(

[marylou12]

Yes, I had an employee once who nearly drove me insane. I don't know how to explain it except to say that she would lie when confronted by something she obviously did. Then, she went on in some way that made you feel like you were crazy.

A friend of mine saw her interviewing for another position when she was working for me. I asked her about it and she said, "no, I wasn't."

I told her my friend saw her. She told me she was lying.

She got involved with strange business deals. Crazy things like I've never heard of, very far-out things that were for sure going to come about over time.

She ended up stealing from me and later her own son, blamed the other employees for things she did and totally created chaos.

I sat and told her..."I don't care what you do; you can find other employment or stay here but you must tell the truth to me. I just can't take someone who lies."

She left....I was glad because she was just about to drive a wedge between my husband and me. She would tell me, "he did that to the computers, that's why they aren't working."

She has gone on to defraud many other employers, her friends and almost ruined her former husband's business. She is really terribly sick.

[Unregistered]

Yes, I had an employee once who nearly drove me insane. I don't know how to explain it except to say that she would lie when confronted by something she obviously did. Then, she went on in some way that made you feel like you were crazy.

Exactly like my MIL.

My ex would tell lies too that made no sense. It was like a game. He would tell a lie and if anyone believed him, like the person next to him in line at MacDonalds, then the lie became true and he would believe it. ANd if you didn't believe it, you were to be bullied and punished until you said you believed it (just like my MIL too). They never cared if you really believed them or not, only that you pretend to believe it.

And if you caught them in a lie and had evidence, they'd just make up more lies. My ex is now an alcoholic living in a welfare hotel run by the YMCA. My MIL has been isolated from everyone she ever cared about.

[Angelstill]

A guy I met at school is a pathalogical liar.

When we first met, he told me he was 20, That he had graduated a year before he really had, that his mom was a Doctor. That he was an assistant manager at the drug store he worked at.....I am sure there are more.

He was only 19, his mom was a lab tech in an optometrist office, he was not in management at all. I found out because something he said just didn't add up. I looked him up online n the public records and found the custody papers from his parents divorce that gave his correct age. He called me one night while he was drunk and I confronted him. He came clean and I don't think he lied to me again but I did find out he was lying to a new girlfriend recently and was using the same lies.

I really don't get why he lied to me though. I am 13 years older than him and married with kids. We were in some of the same classes and worked together on some homework. I was only a friend to him with absolutly no plans to be anything more. I guess he just wanted to make himself look good. Not sure why. I could care less what his history is.

[Unregistered]

dear all,
Is my ex-boss a pathological liar? I don't know what my former boss is suffering from... The bottom line in every discussion was that (only) she knew what was best, and that it was impossible for the opponent to know the real truth.

We all worked in a laboratory and conducted scientific research. This fact makes her attitude even worse. Instead of conducting science according to the general accepted 'scientific methodology', she started to invent hypotheses. She manipulated data (charts and pictures) and came then into the lab and started to tell 'what was going on in the cells'. If someone was not convinced by the presented data or hypothesis, she could tell it from your face and became angry, stepted to a collegue and said 'don't you see what is going on here?', as if you were stupid. Also it is very difficult to clearify that what she is telling is just read from literature, if it concerns obtained data or just something she thinks. In any case, it always seems something 'revolutionary' and something we should thank her for...as if science should be proud to have such a scientist.

At noon, we ate together with other collegues and talked about many things. Also here was the bottom line, that she knew everything, and that all the things she had, or did was better. For instance, she has the best computer, the best dentist, the best car, the best washing machine, the best tour operator. Her holiday resorts were fantastic and she knew exactly were to buy the cheapest/best things. Proudly she told that 'she knew exactly which cabdriver was the best, just by looking at his face', consequently she got a lot of touristic information from that driver, something other people would never got from other drivers.

She told stories about her past that were not true. She had fights with many (if not all) fellow scientists in all the labs she has worked in. I personally know many of the people she talked about, and know that many of her stories are 'twisted' such that she was the victime of that encounter and that the other got it wrong.

I think she suffers from mythomania. Something typical for that dissorder is that people become angry when they notice that others start to realize that they are lying. Sadly, people with common sense, eventually must give up. They turn their back and leave her. This makes her to belief that she, once again, can manipulate people, and that if she only kicks the hardest, she will always win a fight. The thing is that she really thinks that she is the smartest: 'I 'am the smartest groupleader of the institute'...I bet she has never heard of the word mythomania. It's all in her brain.....

[Unregistered]

I have always wondered about compulsive and/or pathological liars and what they get out of it. I had a friend who would claim to have several successful businesses but never have any money. This went on for years. No one believed him about his work, but no one confronted him. Why do they do this?


I think sometimes it is easier for these people to believe their own lies, rather than facing up to reality. Subconsciously they're aware of failure's and they expectations they've not met. Rather than come to terms with this they constantly tell lie's which entangles them in a web of deceit, up to the point where they believe their own lie's. It is extremely sad and these people need help.

[Unregistered]

I think sometimes it is easier for these people to believe their own lies, rather than facing up to reality. Subconsciously they're aware of failure's and they expectations they've not met. Rather than come to terms with this they constantly tell lie's which entangles them in a web of deceit, up to the point where they believe their own lie's. It is extremely sad and these people need help.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I had a roommate who is a pathological liar. Everything that came out of his mouth was just something made up to make himself look better. He always claimed to be making over $100,000 right out of school (he was by no means the top of his class, nor was the job he is working pay that much, b/c I have friends who have the same job.) He also likes to lie about where he's been, and tells people things that other people said when they did not say anything to him. And is always making up random things he did that day whether it be where he ate lunch, how many miles he ran or how he hires and fires people (he's an entry level worker).

He would also have to best you at everything. He even claimed he wore glasses, just to prove that he had glasses too! (he'd never worn glasses a day in his life). If you ever confronted him on a lie, he would get furious.

At the end of the day he is just a bland ordinary person. But, I think you are right, he actually believes most of what is coming out of his mouth without even thinking about it. My friends and I have learned to ignore it, but it is annoying and kinda sad.

[sh3rm4n]

I am a pathological liar :(

[joanie]

Liars are funny :p

[Sandra]

Sometimes liars hurt other people.

[maura]

a family member. very close family member. it does hurt. and it is destructive. but you must understand what possesses the "liar".
it's easy to toss the term around, but it is a definite personality disorder. and when you see it first hand with a loved one, it can be painful too. for they don't feel as if they are doing anything wrong. and it does no good to "call them on their lies."

[Blind_October]

the pathologial ones like Maura spoke of, think they are dilusional?
think they lie to live in a fantasy world or do they lie to make themselves feel better, like suffer from low self esteem?

[Blind_October]

I am a pathological liar :(

oh yeah? gimme some good juicy made up stuff please :D

[Baileysmom]

OMG!........Pathological liar???..........does a daughter-in-law count? Yes, I'd say yeah she's fits the mold of a pathological liar! The only time she's nice to my husband and I is when she wants something. She is unbelievable in every way! She's tried to make me look like a fool..... just this last weekend was my grandson's 11th birthday - I called my son on "his" cell phone to ask about sizes for his son, Michael, who doesn't live with him - but only visit's every other weekend. He in turn hands her the phone and I very nicely ask about the sizes for him. My answer was " I don't know".. anyway to make a long story short - she tell's me the wrong size, and I was dumb enough to fall into her trap!.......As it turned out we all had to return the clothing and get something different. My son as had another child who is just 6 months old. My daughter-in-law makes sure I'm not to have anything to do with her.. I buy her cute little clothes, and I never see them on her..
Everytime I try to do something nice for her - it "always" comes back to bite me in the @#R#!...I never really believed in "wicked step mother's" until HER! My poor little grandson - truthfully, he's a decent little kid - a little on the small size, and quite - when his over at her house... I call it her house because it is.. My son met her while going threw his divorce with his 1st wife... god, talk about "stalker"...she was it.............and she managed to worm her way into my son's life....he just didn't date enough, or should I say at all after he was separated and going threw his divorce... Yeah yeah, i know, I'm the mother-in-law and they say every mother-in-law doesn't like who their son picks for a wife, but thats not true... I really liked his 1st wife and we got along great, and still do...its just that wifey #2 is the B#$% from hell - and she loves making me look like a moron... Theres ton's more to tell you guys about our history, but its so bad I'd hate to write it down.. I'm just to the point of not knowing what to do ... I've tried, really tried to like her, but................its like trying to like the devil himself...
Just needed to vent.... don't know if any of you can help out, but it does help to just get it out!!!......:rolleyes:

[Sandra]

Hi Baileysmom and welcome. I'm sorry about your problems with your daughter in law.

There is a sister site that has many members that have in law problems.
I have a feeling you will find more answers there.

I do wish you the best but other than telling your son that you love him and are there for him and the same to your grandson I don't have any other advise to give.

www.friendsandfamilyforum.com (http://www.friendsandfamilyforum.com)

[Baileysmom]

Sandra............that site you posted isn't what you thought.......just a bunch of ad's................

[Robert Fogt]

She meant http://www.friendsandfamilyforum.com/

[Sandra]

Sorry, I did forget to put the forum in there. I need to check my link from now on.

[gubment_cheez]

I am a pathological liar.

[Blind_October]

I am a pathological liar.
are you really?
or are you lying about being a liar? :p

[gubment_cheez]

are you really?
or are you lying about being a liar? :p
OHNOESPARADOX
*asplodes*

[Blind_October]

OHNOESPARADOX
*asplodes*


:rofl:
dude I have no idea what that meant, but somehow its still funny!
:D

[glamorette]

My ex husband..lies,lies and lies.I think is a pattern he pick up from his mother.I do know is that as the years go by it gets worst.It will take years of therapy to see any improvement.Lies are part of life to him.He can't live without telling a lie.He is also a highly addictive person..to drugs,sex,food...bottom line..This man is a mess.:o

[heartbrokengma]

well....My daughter in law is a pathological liar ! and I have found out that it runs in her family. She is always making up stories and telling my son that our family is out to get her when in reality she is doing the stuff to herself. As long as my husband and I are helping to pay bills for her and my son everything is great but we told the this month that its time she gets a job to help out our son due to the fact my husband has cancer and will be going through treatments again and the bills tend to get a bit much on us. Now she has promised if we dont help then out so she can stay home with our grandson she and her mother will tell everyone that my parents and I and my husband abuse our grandson and we will never see him again. We have had no contact with my son in over 3 weeks after we took him to lunch when she was out with her family she called me at work and told me never to take him out without her again and we need to consider her feeling and not leave her out (she was out at the movies with her mom) I told her ok just to keep the peace. My poor son is caught in the middle of it all I think deep down he sees her evilness but he has a baby with her and thinks he needs to stand up for her. she has ran off all his friends and now hes not to contact anyone in his family. My heart is broken thinking I may never see him or my grandson again or at least for many years. She even had the nerve to come into my home while I was at work and take all the babies picture out of my house and delete all the uploaded photos off my computer. anyway I needed to vent sorry !

[heartbrokengma]

Baileysmom, I feel your pain with your daughter in law, mine does the exact same thing to us all the time. I wish you luck !! take care

[REP]

I'm not sure that it is a hereditary thing that can run in the family....I believe the condition stems from insecurities creating low self esteem which creates and appetite for attention. To fix the issue, you must target the root, being the insecurities.